Comments on: Is tagging really that bad? http://soledadpenades.com/2007/08/29/is-tagging-really-that-bad/ repeat 4[fd 100 rt 90] Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:38:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: sole http://soledadpenades.com/2007/08/29/is-tagging-really-that-bad/#comment-43749 sole Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:34:19 +0000 http://www.soledadpenades.com/2007/08/29/is-tagging-really-that-bad/#comment-43749 Ah, I was thinking of moderated just for avoiding vandalism. But I was also assuming a very large amount of users, of lots of different countries and languages. Normally the chaos only appears in that situation... Ah, I was thinking of moderated just for avoiding vandalism. But I was also assuming a very large amount of users, of lots of different countries and languages.

Normally the chaos only appears in that situation…

]]> By: Rami Kayyali http://soledadpenades.com/2007/08/29/is-tagging-really-that-bad/#comment-43741 Rami Kayyali Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:17:01 +0000 http://www.soledadpenades.com/2007/08/29/is-tagging-really-that-bad/#comment-43741 I know it becomes difficult to manage synonyms in a multi-lingual context, but that's an extreme. If we stick to English tags, we can also define synonyms and semantically-related tags, like fotos, photos, photographs (for the Americans, the English, and the Nitpickers). But why moderated? Isn't it chaos that makes tags useful? I know it becomes difficult to manage synonyms in a multi-lingual context, but that’s an extreme. If we stick to English tags, we can also define synonyms and semantically-related tags, like fotos, photos, photographs (for the Americans, the English, and the Nitpickers).

But why moderated? Isn’t it chaos that makes tags useful?

]]> By: sole http://soledadpenades.com/2007/08/29/is-tagging-really-that-bad/#comment-43734 sole Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:50:13 +0000 http://www.soledadpenades.com/2007/08/29/is-tagging-really-that-bad/#comment-43734 @Rami - I like the idea of tag synonyms. But I have the feeling that they should be <em>moderated</em> by editors somehow. Although of course they could be <em>dangerous</em> when you put two languages side by side and try to find <em>funny things</em>. @Rami – I like the idea of tag synonyms. But I have the feeling that they should be moderated by editors somehow.

Although of course they could be dangerous when you put two languages side by side and try to find funny things.

]]> By: HappyWebCoder http://soledadpenades.com/2007/08/29/is-tagging-really-that-bad/#comment-43721 HappyWebCoder Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:54:24 +0000 http://www.soledadpenades.com/2007/08/29/is-tagging-really-that-bad/#comment-43721 @Rami: synonyms could be dangerous with polysemic tags, which could be frequent on the multilingual context that you describe. That's why I always use english tags ;) @Rami: synonyms could be dangerous with polysemic tags, which could be frequent on the multilingual context that you describe. That’s why I always use english tags ;)

]]> By: Rami Kayyali http://soledadpenades.com/2007/08/29/is-tagging-really-that-bad/#comment-43701 Rami Kayyali Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:00:54 +0000 http://www.soledadpenades.com/2007/08/29/is-tagging-really-that-bad/#comment-43701 Actually, I find tags useful even with the proliferation of mess. If anything, it connects like-minded people together. Those who use similar, messed-up tags are more likely to be in the same social group. The taxonomist in me struggled for a while when I moved my bookmarks to del.icio.us, but then I found how useful tags are. e.g. I can find all the programming frameworks I know by visiting del.icio.us/rami/frameworks, and filter that down to PHP with del.icio.us/rami/php+frameworks. I like that. One idea to somehow fix the problem you mention is by allowing people to define tag synonyms. It could happen over time in the context of the application itself. Say you're browsing certain photos tagged with "fotografías", you can click on, say, "Add Synonym" and enter "photographs". Collectively, we'd end up with tag synonym groups, which would make searching much easier. Actually, I find tags useful even with the proliferation of mess. If anything, it connects like-minded people together. Those who use similar, messed-up tags are more likely to be in the same social group.

The taxonomist in me struggled for a while when I moved my bookmarks to del.icio.us, but then I found how useful tags are. e.g. I can find all the programming frameworks I know by visiting del.icio.us/rami/frameworks, and filter that down to PHP with del.icio.us/rami/php+frameworks. I like that.

One idea to somehow fix the problem you mention is by allowing people to define tag synonyms. It could happen over time in the context of the application itself. Say you’re browsing certain photos tagged with “fotografías”, you can click on, say, “Add Synonym” and enter “photographs”. Collectively, we’d end up with tag synonym groups, which would make searching much easier.

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